Shawn:
Am I really the asshole, or are you the asshole in making me look like
an asshole?
(And have you noticed that a sentence with the same profanity three
times results in that profanity suffering from overexposure and
becoming numbingly absurd?)
We talked, agreed that, as our Epitaph PR guy just passed on to me (to
tell you), we should hold back on this long, revealing rant of yours
until a press release closer to the CD date.
So when you told me you'd jumped the gun with posting to your blog with
that quote (as I'd asked you to write to help Epitaph with their press
release), I said best that you take it down.
"Oh, fine," you said, like a petulant 13-year old girl told to go back
to your room and change into something less slutty. However, you
indicated that this made sense to remove the quotes for now.
I didn't think you'd stick me with the reputation as the violent,
coarse censor of your musings.
Your independent blogging rights can be revoked, you know. A simple missed month of web host payments and your whole web-wide-world crumbles. Do not cross me again.
-Miles
Am I really the asshole, or are you the asshole in making me look like
an asshole?
(And have you noticed that a sentence with the same profanity three
times results in that profanity suffering from overexposure and
becoming numbingly absurd?)
We talked, agreed that, as our Epitaph PR guy just passed on to me (to
tell you), we should hold back on this long, revealing rant of yours
until a press release closer to the CD date.
So when you told me you'd jumped the gun with posting to your blog with
that quote (as I'd asked you to write to help Epitaph with their press
release), I said best that you take it down.
"Oh, fine," you said, like a petulant 13-year old girl told to go back
to your room and change into something less slutty. However, you
indicated that this made sense to remove the quotes for now.
I didn't think you'd stick me with the reputation as the violent,
coarse censor of your musings.
Your independent blogging rights can be revoked, you know. A simple missed month of web host payments and your whole web-wide-world crumbles. Do not cross me again.
-Miles


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wow.
The "petulant 13-year old girl" bit made me giggle.
I felt like I was reading a gossip blog.
Oh come on, it's not like the whole world would have seen it:(
Party pooper.
Shawn, put a mousetrap in his shoe or something.
Well..........we saw it!! too late, we win *dances*
Lets egg his car. mwahhahaha
Miles is your Dad, face it.
Woah. I figured that was a label thing...
I didn't think the violent,
coarse censor gave anyone a reputation of a asshole...merely a creative way of saying "Oh, our management doesn't want this shown yet.". Though, I didn't really think such a beautifully written rant could be equated to something slutty, either.
And as far as I can remember, Blogger is free to the users...
♥ V
nice, definately made my day
awww somebody got in trouble!
man...are they gonna bend you over their knee and spank you with "the paddle"?
GIVE ME YOUR COMPUTER AND GO TO YOUR CORNER SHAWN HARRIS! IT'S TIME OUT FOR YOOOU!!
Oh you got burned!
wtf u arente a litle gurl??mleswtf?
awww Shawn its okay. I give you a cookie.
wow.
i love confrontation
shawn, do something else defiant this is "juicy" stuff
Oohhh. How forceful you are Miles.
Naughty Shawn
L x
soooo many people copied and commented in the last post that you could probably piece it together and read IT ALL!!!!!
yup.
o0 snap miles.
yah but miles, shawn is punk rock. hes gonna do it anyway.
just like when they couldn't play at gilman they went and made imusicast 20 times better.
i dont think your an asshole miles, but good luck with shawn. hes 2 punk for u 2 handle.
ahahaha. I'm glad I was quick enough to check this blog that I got to read the entire thing.
Don't let the man keep you down Shawn. :P
I think neither of you are assholes.
I want to see a reenactment of that whole "oh fine" bit. It sounds hysterical.
And I didn't find the censoring violent, I thought it was funny but in a sad way... cause it got rid of the blog but in a funny way. Also rewarding to us who had already read it. =^]
Miles sounds just like my dad... except I never was that 13 year old girl that was sent to change into something less slutty... I was the one told to change back into something more "dressy"
But still... sounds like he's about to ground you from the internet... you better behave or we'll miss you.
HAHAHA. how do you 'ground' a 25 year old from the internet? I don't think that this done in the right place.
Maybe somewhere a little more private might have sufficed? Like in a private email to Shawn?
A few parts made me laugh out loud though, so thanks for that.
(but overall i find the whole thing a little silly)
Hearts That Hate!!! Wooooo!!!
as much as everyone else is egging you on to do more, i think maybe you should do what l=miles says. if you had the blog taken away from you, it would be more like taking it away from...how many of us are steady readers? anyways i thought it was funny. just dont get in trouble
much love
♥katie
ps there i am being the voice of reason again...wow
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think you really gave anything away in the post, Shawn. It isn't as if you gave a link for streaming the unfinished album for all to acquire.
Rants are what blogger--and the internet, really-- is all about. And it's FREE. I don't think anything really harmful happened.
Petulant 13 year-old girl, indeed.
miles is cool cause he helps out shawn, but im afraid that if he were 2 talk down 2 him hed lose. shawn is just 2 coola dn ets tooo much support.
Did he take your stereo away too?
Ohh. It hurts.
I'm only saying that in a joking sense, keep in mind.
Hahaha, this was a wonderful thing to wake up to.
Hahaha... That's awesome. I want to be his friend now.
Miles is a badass.
and I agree with Tori, it just seemed like a creative way to get rid of it instead of taking it down. It did say in the beginning of the blog that it was a statement for Epitaph, so I had the feeling that it wouldn't be there for too long.
hmm
ok, well I missed all this
but from what I read from the comments, there was some kind of preview? or a song..?
I don't know much (or anything at all) about music business, but is it really that big of a deal if something like that is leaked?
kelsey
shawn was asked to write something for epitaph for the new album
then because he thought that the long description he had written would turn into a one line tag, he posted the whole thing for us to read.
it was really nice and then miles told him to take it down because it wasnt ready to be posted yet
i dont see a big deal but maybe it is
i dunno
hahaha. I find the whole thing to be pretty funny. I also find it funny that some people really think that Miles is going to "punish" you and take away your privileges. Good shit.
Miles looks dashing in orange.
Let's hope it does not come to this;
shawn harris: but waaaaah i wants to post on my internettttttssssss.
label people: no, go to your room and practice your papercut skin pelvic thrust.
:)
Miles needs to calm down. Calm down Miles.
"label people: no, go to your room and practice your papercut skin pelvic thrust."
WOW... I loved that... I like... couldn't breath from all the laughing. Thats super.
And I love the stereo comment too.
It made What Katie Said get stuck in my head once again... and I had just got it out 5 hours ago... Haha.
Damn the man !
I dont think that post didnt reveal any thing that wasnt revealed in a post a couple of months ago .
such a fickle world of publicity.
or are we being made the fool with this stunt being pulled on us ?
Miles Miles.
I think it should be up to the band.
Good job Miles, you sow that uppity Shawn who's boss. No offense Shawn, but he's kinda made a sensible point (though doing it through these means doesn't entirely seem like a wise idea; making you sound like an overzealous child). It was smart on his part to "shade" the post, but a public rant such as this, I think (take or leave), was a tad too brash. He should have stuck it up YOUR ass first instead of publicly humiliating you(if that word is befitting. I'm not sure if you're humiliated).
-Alison
I meant to put "show" not "sow."
My proofreading skills have gone down the drain. Sheesh.
-Alison
Oh and Miles, should you be reading this, I'm hoping that nobody sees you as an asshole. Protecting an overabundant "rant" from being released too early is part of your job. You keep the band functioning while gaurding any future knowledge that need not be released yet (like Area51 without the...well, actually ALOT like Area51). If people are honestly believing that you're a termed "ass" then they clearly have different or childish views on that words definition.
-Alison
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yaa wow
yeah actually i think this was a email then copied by Shawn thou...
Some things fly right over people heads. All these posts are about Miles coming on here and scribbling out your post or writing you the letter of reprimand. Shawn is the one that posted all that stuff. Come one people. Think before you type.
OOOOOh! Shawn Harris!!! does someone need to "step in the square"? You are lucky Miles doesn't know about "the square."ha ha ha..
"Some things fly right over people heads. All these posts are about Miles coming on here and scribbling out your post or writing you the letter of reprimand. Shawn is the one that posted all that stuff. Come one people. Think before you type."
Amen.
Wow, pretty intense!
Thank you anyways Shawn.
...I think you should be grounded for a week...
Little known to most, the phrase "record label" comes from the latin phrase for "giant corporate douchebag"
shawn,
i support u. be yourself.
"you rebel, you"
be a punk thats y we love u.
Chris, leave him alone about the punk thing already!
He's an intelligent man! You don't need to tell him 20 or 30 times!
Plus he can't really do anything, press releases are up to the record label, and unless you want to see them dropped in February, I don't think he'll violate anymore rules, no matter how rebellious he is.
Oi, the drama.
I thought it was rather creative, too, and not really meant to make Miles seem like an asshole.
Oh well.
mmm, i remember being that 13 year old girl who wore slutty clothes. All you have to do is go back to your room and put them on under acceptable clothes. Take my word for it, theyll never be the wiser.
the matches dont need epitaph
epitaph needs them
the matches have 23408820480243 better labels for them. they could even make their own. and do better. they r 2 good.
screw that. the matches r 2 punk 2 let their label boss them aronud.
i support hem all the way.
btw all u guys saying that shawn wrote this:
DUH! but this is a real letter tahn miles wrote 2 shawn. shawn posted it but miles wrote it first.
Good god, Chris! THE LABEL IS NOT PUTTING THEM DOWN!
This label has put out two of your favorite records, sure the band made them, and they could have reached the masses soon, but the label put them out sooner. Don't tell them to mouth off to their label, it's not a good idea.
There is nothing wrong with Epitaph. There is nothing wrong with Miles. There is nothing wrong with the Matches.
END OF STORY!
what an idiot. blogger is free. i hope the label doesnt own your domain name, so many bands do that and then when they switch labels the old label gets pissy and owns their site.
Whoa, whoa, Miles isn't an idiot!
yah miles is awesome from what i know of him. and shawn is 2 and so is te matches ands epitaph. but if epitaph ever became lieks ome other labels (making u chnage your songs, changing the things u do, etc.) then i say the matches should leave. though th eonly label i ever liked is epitaph.
Chris what about Kung Fu or Takeover or Punk the Clock? All the other labels that had The Matches?
let's make peace kids
I like Epitaph a lot, but I feel like they could do more to try and reach people. As much as we hate the Victory records commercials that play twice in every commercial break, I think extra stuff like that could really get the word out better. Not that I want tv commercials. Never tv commercials! But extra exposure to new people somehow.
Some of you are taking this WAY to seriously. Almost out of hand. Relax.
Its supposed to be a nice HAHA blog, not a debate over nonsense.
During Warped Tour, Epitaph plays a whole load of commercials, but only a few mention The Matches in them but none of them full-on feature The Matches advertising.
And this is kind of serious in my opinion.
I just don't understand how this unraveled into this whole big thing. I am not saying that their promotion and all is not a serious thing. I just think that everything is getting a little carried away.
I dunno, wearing a vest without a shirt is pretty slutty, Shawn. Maybe your Warped fashion choices are catching up with you?
Anyway, I laughed, thanks for brightening my tired & sore evening.
Miles for the win.
I have no idea how any of you find this funny...Manager, Promo, Label etc., that's serious shit.
Possibly time for the naughty step?
"I am not saying that their promotion and all is not a serious thing. I just think that everything is getting a little carried away."
Sorry, I just thought it was a cool thing to talk about. I wasn't trying to be serious at all.
And I agree that this thing with Miles is kind of funny but it's serious too, I mean read the message, he pretty much threatened Shawn. It's not *that* funny.
lets put this tiny squabble behind us and marvel over the fact that today in school i saw a kid wearing a matches shirt...and he wasnt even someone i knew!
now my school is fairly small and i thought i knew allll the matches fans there (namely me my best friend and the girl that made me listen to you) but i was wrong
oh happy day!
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yah for an indpeendent label epitaph is really cirporate and controlling. one of my best friends, sarah, tells me all aobut epitaph (shes a die hard bad religion fan and knows EVERYTHING 9exaggerating) about music: selling, promoting, record companies. and she will change your mind about the evilness of record companies ina heartbeat. very convincing. idk though. her stats coudl all eb fake but i doubt it.
she hates the way companies treat their bands. and the way independent companies are so corporate. and she feels bad for musicians. she is a greta person. and the ORIGNINAL true punk rocker.
Haha
I love coming back to read comments... you people are hysterical. >.<
And I totally agree about that Victory Records commercial comment. They're so annoying. I've gotten to the point where I can't listen to a Victory label band anymore because there were so many commercials.
Why hasn't Shawn commented lately?
Congrats on the Cage Match win. I've been trying to get you guys on there for months.
"Why hasn't Shawn commented lately?"
Didn't you hear? He got grounded from the internet. hahahah.
It seems next tour you should sell 'sense of humor' at the merch tent, 'cause lots of these people commenting need one badly.
agreed. hahahah.
hah good call steph
shawn's a big boy, he can handle this kids.
I don't think this letter from Miles was meant to be read with a sense of humour...
^^I was mainly concerned with the last section, about taking away his internet.
Also, just the idea that some commenters seem to be reading this in such a serious, threatening tone instead of a more lighthearted yet just as firm tone.
Here's an idea. Stop caring so much how other people read things! Does it really matter? Sheesh :P
Have you noticed your blog controversy had claimed a spot on The Matches Wikipedia page? I stumbled across it and was amused.
"With this record's release approaching, great controversy appeared for the band. "Who Let the Yankees In the Chip Shop?" leaked on to the band's message boards and on Facebook. On Heavy Breeding, YShawn Harris' blog, Shawn posted one entry including an apparently revealing rant about the album, which was later scribbled out, and read "The Wizard Was Here!" with a white flag on the side. The next blog entry was a letter written by "The Wizard," Miles Hurwitz, who assisted in developing the album Decomposer."
Good Stuff
You have been documented.
And now that I have read the original post I must say things like this...
Just because you didn't land number one on some chart does not mean that you have failed or that you aren't successful. I mean in all honesty have you heard some of the things on those kinda lists? Granted they aren't all atrocious but there are quite a few shake your head worthy contenders. The kind of success that you seem to feel like you have missed out on, is it really success at all? I think that when you reach that level something gets lost along the way. Now you have true fans, not just people who heard your song on the radio and fell in love with a face. If I am to say any of these things about any band it is fitting that it is you. You are the one band that I cannot get out of my head and by that I do not mean only my ears. The matches are constantly in my everyday conversation to the point where it has been pointed out by others and considered by myself that maybe its a little out of the ordinary. Guilty. I can't get enough of the clever lines along with the wit behind and everything that seems to be dripping with implication. The matches can write a song about being sick at the beach and I find it nothing but brilliant. Believe me I could go on for pages trying to explain my fascination and appreciation for The Matches but I will try and cut it down to fewer words. Just make sure that the success you are looking for is the blessing you think it is and not the very opposite. And while you are basking in your disappointment be sure not to overlook the fact that there are people who have caught on and know full and well that you deserve the world.
Wayne is right, I don't think this is supposed to be funny, I think it's quite serious but I may be wrong.
fight the power!
just kidding . . .
2 posts previous describes it all for me.
"The matches are constantly in my everyday conversation to the point where it has been pointed out by others and considered by myself that maybe its a little out of the ordinary."
story of my life.
And a good point was also made about not overlooking the fact that there are people who have caught on and know full and well that you deserve the world.
in other news, I am seriously missing your posts, Shawn.
the non-exsistence of the post is making more hype than the once exsistence of it .
p.s can we all step back and look at the irony here
awwe shawn babe don't worry I'm on your side I have your back and those who don't agree with you can kiss off
as fare as I see it you have every right to be upset darling and I personally am on team shawn in this one.
much much love to you darling .
ps. e-mail me I have a gift for you love.
p.s. shawn's a douche.
do me a facor.
stop posting shit trying 2 proce 2 shawn what agr8 fan u r. ok. its overdone damnit.
miles! I totally miss you. ;)
Wow. Matches fans arguing.
THERE'S a first.
Oh Bob. You are the Ultimate.
Chris, v and c have separate keys. Juuust so you know ;)
I love how it is still everywhere online... i cant go anywhere without reading it again.
I love how I can still find it every online still. i like to read it over and over agian just because I know that people arnt supposed to. Love Ya
Wowzers, Chris, that's quite contradictory.
i wish yall would leave each alone
im sure shawn looooooves seeing you guys bicker with each other
We all love each other.
Boardies foreverrrrrrrrrr!
I love everyone here... except Chris.
I'm sorry Shawn, I'm sorry boardies, I'm sorry everyone else, but I'm not going to change my opinion about somebody I don't like because you tell me to.
Ehhh, I think Chris likes not being liked. For real.
Let's steer this sucker back towards the Matches though.
Anyone who's going to a show soon, tell the guys they should try to make some stops in northern Europe in the future, like in Sweden and whatnot. The kids there have to take trains and airplanes to get to shows in England. So spread the word! We can convince 'em :)
I find it so funny that so much controversy started over this...
People are making it a bigger deal then it is.
Where is the love, my brothers and sisters???
um ok I miss Shawn's posts
I LOVE YOU PEOPLE!!!
Even Chris.
=^]
And I miss Shawn's posts too.
And love The Matches more than you can imagine.
Haha
I sound like a hippie or something.
But seriously.
All you people that love The Matches are like family.
*Virtual group hug* Who's with me? =^]
Was it not The Matches who said "If I'm the sum of all my friends then all my friends are some of me and if you're someone just like them then I am you to some degree"?
See... we are all each other, to some degree.
OH! Quotes rule.
I'm procrastinating doing other stuff, so I'm rambling at this point. Plus I'm happy cause for like 2 days Heavy Breeding and Blogger itself wouldn't load on my computer cause the cable went out so I had a bad connection. Haha. Pure happiness.
Ahh, I really might have been on crack last time I read this...
The joys of trying to get a point across through typing. Maybe this is why sometimes no ones gets my jokes...
♥ V
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What online mags do you read and would recommend?
For all you ska folks out there I recommend The Enough Fanzine. It is one of the first punk zines on the web.
They have throusands of reviews from the most underground bands all over the world. Check them out online: [url=http://www.enoughfanzine.com]Enough Fanzine[/url]. Best of it all, they are 100% non-profit and just helping the scene!
Looking forward to your recommendations.
Cheers!
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